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<title>[tcltk-perl] please move to tcltk at perl dot org</title>
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<title>[tcltk-perl] Call For Papers: 13th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference, Oct. 9-13, 2006</title>
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 - radically simple
 - radically flexible
 - radically powerful

Announcing the 13th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference

October 9-13, 2006
Naperville, Illinois USA

Learn from the experts, share your experience - the annual Tcl/Tk
conference is your opportunity to engage with the Tcl/Tk core team and
your fellow peers.

The conference program will include:
  * Presentations and tutorials
  * The (Active)State of Tcl talk by Tcl/Tk release manager Jeff Hobbs
  * Birds of a Feather (BOF) sessions
  * Invited key-note talks
  * Discussion forums with the Tcl/Tk core team

Call For Papers

You are invited and indeed encouraged to submit proposals for
presentations and tutorials. The conference schedule will consist of two
days of tutorials (Monday - Tuesday) and 3 days for the main
conference (Wednesday - Friday).

The conference provides you an opportunity to report on original
research and applications of Tcl/Tk and related technology. The
audience will consist of practitioners and researchers who are
intermediate or experienced users of Tcl/Tk.  For this reason, reports
on experiences and applications should draw out lessons for other
Tcl/Tk developers.

Topics will include, but are not limited to:

  * Application of Tcl/Tk in industries as diverse as engineering,
      industrial controls, broadcasting, financial services,
      medical and electronic design
  * Networking with Tcl/Tk, including distributed applications and network
      management
  * New widgets and techniques for GUI design with Tk
  * Simulation and application steering with Tcl/Tk
  * Tcl/Tk on handheld and embedded devices
  * New Tcl extensions and add-ons, including Tcllib and Tklib
  * Tcl/Tk centric operating environments

Submission Guidelines

If you are interested in submitting a paper you should send an
abstract of about 100 words and a summary of maximum two pages. Omit
extraneous or redundant information. Length is not a direct factor in
judging the quality of the submission.

If submitting a tutorial proposal you should send an outline of the
tutorial and a brief biography, and clearly indicate whether the
tutorial is of half-day or full-day duration.

Send submissions as plain text to &lt;tcl2006@... no later than May
31, 2006.

The primary author for each accepted paper will receive registration
to the Technical Sessions portion of the conference at a reduced rate.

The program committee will review and evaluate papers according to
the following criteria:
  * Quantity and quality of novel content
  * Relevance and interest to the Tcl/Tk community
  * Suitability of content for presentation at the conference

Proposals may report on commercial or non-commercial systems, but
those with only blatant marketing content will not be accepted.

Application and experience papers need to strike a balance between
background on the application domain and the relevance of Tcl/Tk to
the application.  Application and experience papers should clearly
explain how the application or experience illustrates a novel use of
Tcl/Tk, and what lessons the Tcl/Tk community can derive from the
application or experience to apply to their own development efforts.

Papers accompanied by non-disclosure agreement forms will be returned
to the author(s) unread.  All submissions are held in the highest
confidentiality prior to publication in the Proceedings, both as a
matter of policy and in accord with the U. S. Copyright Act of 1976.

Registration Information

More information on the conference will be available in Spring 2006 at
the conference web site (http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2006/) and
published on various Tcl/Tk related information channels.

To keep in touch with conference announcements and Tcl events in
general, subscribe to the tcl-announce list at:

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by entering your email and selecting Tcl-announce.

Conference Committee

Cyndy Lilagan	  Eolas Technologies		  Facilities Coordination
Clif Flynt	  Noumena Corp			  General Chair
Steve Redler IV   SR Technology 		  Program Chair
Steve Landers	  Digital Smarties		  Program Co-chair
Kevin Kenny	  GE Global Research Center
Jeffrey Hobbs	  ActiveState
Andreas Kupries   ActiveState
Mike Doyle	  Eolas Technologies
Ron Fox 	  NSCL Michigan State University
Donal Fellows	  University of Manchester
Gerald Lester	  HMS Software
Larry Virden	  Tcl FAQ Maintainer

Contact Information

tcl2006@...
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<description>&lt;PRE>Tcl/Tk 2005 Conference Schedule &amp;
Registration
==============================================

The 12th Tcl/Tk Conference Schedules are available.

The tutorials and paper presentation schedules have been 
finalized and are available at:

http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2005/tut2005.html
http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2005/schedule.html

The abstracts for the selected papers are available at:

http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2005/abstracts.html

The conference dinner will be on Wednesday evening.  
Blueteam will be providing a social hour with drinks
and munchies on Thursday evening.

Registration is open for tutorials and technical 
sessions at:

http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2005/reg.html


Program Committee:
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 Donal	Fellows       University of Manchester
 Clif	Flynt	      Noumena Corp.
 Ron	Fox	      NSCL Michigan State University
 Jeff	Hobbs	      ActiveState Corp.
 Steve	Landers       Digital Smarties
 Gerald Lester	      HMS Software
 Cyndy	Lilagan       Eolas Technologies Inc.
 Arjen	Markus	      WL | Delft Hydraulics

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<description>&lt;PRE>> > > > Any thoughts on 0.88 timing?

...

> OK, I have commited the bulk of my changes.

I made a CPAN release.
Mostly changes that I planned I did not included, but seemingly its better
to make a release anyway, and hopefully next release will be within next
month or two.

Thank you very much for helping with this.

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<description>&lt;PRE>....

> make a version for 8.3 at some point.  I suspect they never
> did one that properly used Tcl stubs though, otherwise you
> would not need to recompile for newer Tcl releases anyways.

Other way round: PUGS *requires* only GHC (not HUGS not NHC) only 6.4+ and
older not supported, as was declared in READMEs, so I recompiled for newer
haskell releases, but probably I'll delay reviving TclHaskell and will use
Tcl/Tk from GHC directly (and this is quite possible and documented way)


> OK, let us know about progress, and if there is something
> about the build system that can be made to make this easier.

sure.

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<description>&lt;PRE>Konovalov, Vadim wrote:
> > > Any thoughts on 0.88 timing?
> 
> Well, as long as it is reasonable to make a release, then 
> plan it to 21th august (after some more my changes at 
> weekend), and if weather conditions will be not perfect then 
> release somewhere in the next week.

OK, I have commited the bulk of my changes.

> On the other notes, currently I am looking into integrating 
> Tcl/Tk into Perl6, which is currently developed in Haskell, 
> and here are some notes on the fact:

Sounds cool ... my haskell is extremely limited, so I don't
know that I'll be of much help.

>   - I realized that TclHaskell is currently out-of-date, 
> (does not compile) and I have some inprovement patches and 
> tried to contact author (with no avail)

Hmmm, first hit at http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~meurig/TclHaskell/
and it certainly seems to be old.  It appears that they did
make a version for 8.3 at some point.  I suspect they never
did one that properly used Tcl stubs though, otherwise you
would not need to recompile for newer Tcl releases anyways.

>   - it is probably better to not use TclHaskell and write 
> direct calls to tcl/tk library; frantk is based on top of 
> TclHaskell and I have no idea about it's shape.
>   - while I received commit bit and am planning to add Tcl/Tk 
> into PUGS (current codename of haskell implementation of 
> perl6), I did not negotiated inclusion of such support into 
> distribution yet.
>   - Haskell and Pugs sourcetree are amazingly hard to start 
> with :):), and PUGS has amazingly quick growth
> 
> All in all, I am trying Tcl::Tk in perl6, and there are 
> interesting things here.

OK, let us know about progress, and if there is something
about the build system that can be made to make this easier.

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<description>&lt;PRE>Attached is my proposed changes for the Tcl
module.  You can
go through the all the changes, but here are the highlights:

* Removed Tcl::GlobalEval, allow Tcl::Eval to take a flags
argument (Tcl_GlobalEval was always just Tcl_Eval with the
TCL_EVAL_GLOBAL flag).	Added Tcl::EVAL_GLOBAL and
Tcl::EVAL_DIRECT constants.

* Added the \300\200 Tcl overlong null encoding handling.  I
did verify that none of Tcl's APIs require it, but when using
in conjunction with Tk, you do need it.

* I'm somewhat bemused by Tcl.xs:prepare_Tcl_result, and the
handling of the gimme var.  If someone would like to explain
this ... I'd appreciate it.

* Tcl::AppendResult is not full Sv &lt;> Tcl_Obj aware.

* t/unicode.t has new tests that exercise unicode transfer at
the Tcl level.	It's modified from Gisle's nul-char.t, and
there is a t/unicode.t for Tcl-Tk as well that interfaces to
the text widget.

Jeff
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<description>&lt;PRE>> Jeff Hobbs wrote:
> > I just made some updates to the Tcl bridge stuff for a little
> > cleanup, but most importantly a tiny change in the createcmd.t
> > test to allow it to build properly in ActiveState's ppm
> > repository (which uses 5.8.0).
> > 
> > Any thoughts on 0.88 timing?

Well, as long as it is reasonable to make a release, then plan it to 21th
august (after some more my changes at weekend), and if weather conditions
will be not perfect then release somewhere in the next week.

On the other notes, currently I am looking into integrating Tcl/Tk into
Perl6, which is currently developed in Haskell, and here are some notes on
the fact:

  - I realized that TclHaskell is currently out-of-date, (does not compile)
and I have some inprovement patches and tried to contact author (with no
avail)
  - it is probably better to not use TclHaskell and write direct calls to
tcl/tk library; frantk is based on top of TclHaskell and I have no idea
about it's shape.
  - while I received commit bit and am planning to add Tcl/Tk into PUGS
(current codename of haskell implementation of perl6), I did not negotiated
inclusion of such support into distribution yet.
  - Haskell and Pugs sourcetree are amazingly hard to start with :):), and
PUGS has amazingly quick growth

All in all, I am trying Tcl::Tk in perl6, and there are interesting things
here.

> 
> Just a note that I actually have a few more changes in the
> pipeline that I should get in tomorrow.

Thank you!

Best regards,
Vadim.


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