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[Tcl-announce] Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (Jun 20)

QOTW:  "It seems as if the REAL tcl
programmers learned their craft from an
on-line source.  A colleague of mine, Laszlo who is a UNIX programmer in
Szombathely, Hungary never picked up a TCL book, but can write some
wonderful scripts used on our FIS (factory information system).  I'll send
him an e-mail and tell him I'm finally taking his advice on TCL.  He'll be
very happy." - ajocius on c.l.t in reply to a CARE packet from Cameron Laird .

"Who needs wizards in a language without magic?" - Richard Suchenwirth


POTW:
    ANNOUNCE: Tcl Plugin v3.1 by Jeffrey Hobbs
    Tcl/Tk web browser plugin for Internet Explorer and NPAPI browsers
    (Firefox, Mozilla, ...) 

    The Tcl web browser plugin has been updated to v3.1.  The major updates
    are modifications to the install architecture that breaks out the
    plugin runtime library to allow users to modify their plugin
    configuration more easily at runtime.  In addtion, the ActiveX host
    control was fixed to allow the plugin to work correctly in multiple
    simultaneous IE toplevel windows.
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/e84794196f3ac1dd
    download:
	http://www.tcl.tk/software/plugin/
    wikiref:
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/12718

    ANNOUNCE: TOXFile 0.1 - cross-platform file manager by Steve Huntley
    TOXFile has many of the basic features of a good file explorer:
    tree-view directory pane plus list-view contents pane, toolbar, address
    bar, right-click context menus, multiple file selection drag and drop,
    a simple text file viewer/editor and file search.
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/97340661235a71ea
    Download: 
	http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=17456

    ANNOUNCE: Nagelfar and Eskil by Peter Spjuth
    Nagelfar and Eskil have gotten new homes, and new releases, at Berlios.

    Nagelfar is a syntax checker for Tcl, written in Tcl.

    Apart from its checking abilities, one of its main features is that
    it is extensible. You can add to the syntax database, or let the tool
    use Tcl's introspection to extract syntax information from any Tcl
    interpreter. Thus you can test scripts for applications using Tcl as
    script language.
    It can also help with Code Coverage analysis.
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/fdf9216da2df1400
    Nagelfar:
	homepage & download:
	    http://nagelfar.berlios.de/
	wikiref:
	    http://wiki.tcl.tk/nagelfar
    Eskil:
	homepage & download:
	    http://eskil.berlios.de/
	wikiref:
	    http://wiki.tcl.tk/eskil

    ANNOUNCE: eTcl 1.0-rc7 released by Eric Hassold
    I'm pleased to announce immediate availability of eTcl 1.0-rc7 for
    Windows, Linux-x86, Linux-ARM, Windows Mobile (2003, 2003SE and 5.0)
    pocketPC and smartphones, and Mac OS X (Aqua) as universal binary
    (x86 and PPC).  New in this release:
     - Windows Mobile available as a compact (Tcl/Tk core, with support
       for Zip VFS, wce, and few others small extensions), standard
       (same plus pixane and sqlite), and full (i.e. batteries-included)
       versions, to fit different memory footprint constraints. Compact
       version is 1.8MB large, and 850kb large if UPX compressed.
     - A new arm-linux port
     - Improved MacOSX port, with support for starting Tcl scripts from
       Finder using double-clicks
     - Up to date 3rd parties packages (sqlite 3.3.6, ...)
     - Improved shape package, with support for applying mask to
       scene (OpenGL views) widgets
     - dict backport added
     - updated custom toolchain for building Linux binaries
     - Many bugs fixes and code optimization
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/23ac9a8be4ec013e
    homepage:
	http://www.evolane.com/
    download:
	http://www.evolane.com/software/etcl/index.html
    comments,feedback:
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/15260
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/eTcl


ORBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl
    Tcl8.5 roadmap
    steep and windy roads unsung:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/762e5d50a5cdccf7

    Sixth European Tcl/Tk Users Meeting - Papers online
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/8f1f1daec3531e9b

    tcl and threads: installing and other info
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/48b6877a2afe9a51

    Text Parser
    Massage Parlor for	bits and bytes and characters:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/1a9aa74fd397070a

    Is Android still maintained?
    Dreaming of electric sheep and TkXext, voices from the past give help:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/d966c2dfef19484c

    problem with gpg password
    or the story of expect and pulling the rug prematurely:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/444ae9ce88c3570f
    
URBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl this week TEN years ago:
    ANNOUNCE: TkCon v0.40 (beta) - Enhanced Tk Console
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/9aa34dd888938095

    URGENT: Tcl/Tk group @ Sun Microsystems looking for Testimonials
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/fcbff24d4874639b

    parallel processes in TCL/TK
    Q: is the mentioned socket stuff connected to the socket lib used for  
    Arizona Radio Observatory:SMT on Mt. Graham, Arizona? 
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/a3b06d8cbadb09d1

    CDE Style Manager & tcl/tk colors
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/ef44bd3f172bb3e9


BAHH: lost sheep and no help:
    How to propagate non-blocking inter-thread error return?
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/8da659031af1184f


Thanks to Arjen Markus for his review of Wiki updates:
  Just a few weeks and we will be in the middle of the year
  again ... Holidays for a fairly large part of the globe.
  But until then: the summary.
  
  From simple to complex ...
  - Can this pure-Tcl console editor be the beginning
    of an enhanced command-line interface on Linux?
     is a nice editor if
    nothing else.
  
  - Tired of windows with a boring rectangular shape?
     lets you pick your
    own shape for them.
  
  - Well, flat screens may be the current fashion,
    but we do want to see three-dimensional pictures 
    on them. Have a go at 
    or discuss it on 
  
  Tools 
  - Scrolling several widgets at a time? 
     shows the principle
    for lists but you can use it in other contexts
    too.
  
  - Do have you trouble managing your disk space?
    Maybe this can help out - http://wiki.tcl.tk/16048>
  
  - Do you know the browser plugin? You may not know 
    its history though - 
    gives some background.
  
  Online
  - Network management needs clever solutions sometimes ...
     refers to a white paper
    about it - and Tcl is involved.
  
  - The sixth European Tcl/Tk users' meeting was held
    last month, but for anybody who wants them, the
    papers are now online: 
  
  

Everything Tcl-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in these
pages:
    The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
	http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome
    comp.lang.tcl is a crucial resource for Tcl practitioners.
    An interesting perspective on its traffic appears at
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/about

    The Tcl Developer Site is Tcl's "home base".
	http://www.tcl.tk

    Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher.
	http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/

    The Tcl Developer Xchange is a highly organized resource center
    of documents and software with provisions for individuals to
    maintain references to their own software:
	http://www.tcl.tk/resource/
    The TDX sponsor, ActiveState, also keeps info to convince your
    boss Tcl is a good thing
	http://www.tcl.tk/scripting/

    The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
    of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things 
    Tcl.
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/0
    For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
    interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/969
    There's also a high-quality Wikibook on Tcl:
	http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Tcl

    ActiveState maintains binaries distribution and development tools
	http://www.activestate.com/Tcl
    along with a Cookbook of Tcl recipes
	http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Tcl

    deli.cio.us presents an intriguing approach to reference commentary.
    It already aggregates quite a bit of Tcl intelligence.
	http://del.icio.us/tag/tcl

    Cameron Laird tracks several Tcl/Tk references of interest (but
    needs to validate many of the links).
	http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/

    Years ago, Cetus Links maintained a Tcl/Tk page with verified links
	http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html

    "Yahoo! Groups" archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts--even 
    though clta itself is dormant.
	http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/

Previous - (U)se the (R)esource, (L)uke! - messages are supposed to be
listed at *Dr. Dobbs*, but sysad at CMP has fallen behind.  We're working
with them to restore the archive.
  http://www.ddj.com/topic/tcl/
In the meantime, an alternative is
  http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl

Suggestions/corrections for next week's posting are always welcome.

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[Tcl-announce] Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (Jun 14)

QOTW:  "Dynamic languages:  waste
microseconds ... and save days." - Cameron
Laird on c.l.t.

"... [L]ess to type means less chances of typos." - Richard Suchenwirth


POTW:
    ANNOUNCE: Multi-column listbox package Tablelist 4.4
    Csaba Nemethi announces a new and enhanced version 

    Tablelist is a library package for Tcl/Tk version 8.0 or higher, 
	  written in pure Tcl/Tk code.	It contains: 
	- the implementation of the "tablelist" mega-widget, including a 
	  general utility module for mega-widgets; 
	- a demo script containing a useful procedure that displays the 
	  configuration options of an arbitrary widget in a tablelist and 
	  enables you to edit their values interactively; 
	- a second demo script, implementing a simple widget browser based on 
	  a tablelist; 
	- a third demo script, showing several ways to improve the appearance 
	  of a tablelist widget; 
	- four further demo scripts, illustrating the interactive cell 
	  editing with the aid of various widgets from the Tk core and from 
	  the packages tile, BWidget, Iwidgets, combobox (by Bryan Oakley), 
	  and Mentry; 
	- one further demo script, with a tablelist widget containing 
	  embedded windows; 
	- tile-based counterparts of the above-mentioned demo scripts; 
	- a tutorial in HTML format; 
	- reference pages in HTML format.
 
    homepage:
	http://www.nemethi.de
    downloads:
	http://sourceforge.net/projects/tcllib


    Make sure you read the Proceedings of the 6th EuroTcl Conference.
	http://axn.dyndns.org
	
ORBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl
    Local Hero's
    or "little people in the walls", the helpful voices from my newsreader:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/24d32c5f3ea383f8

    aborting the evaluation of a single interpreter
    some hints, some tips:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/8a4bcd145b1487e

    Does Tcl support recursion
    Yes but it has to stop somewhere: 500?
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/96dae31318faa641

    IBM Developerworks Article
    Use TclTk on and for your Desktop. This article was mentioned in
    several places.
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/555b325ecb7158cb

    building Rivet on OSX
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/3df04547993f674e

    FindFolder() functionality on OS X
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/70bca70be4f2a328

TIPX: new, used and discarded Tips
    TIP 269 by Joe Mistachkin : Add 'string is list' to the 'string is' Subcommand
	Vote: Pending

URBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl this week TEN years ago:
    HELP: automating tests on tk guis?
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/770a2378de87a77c

    Shared Memory Handling
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/446045d5f8d6f6bf

    TkRat, beta-release of a new MUA (Mail User Agent)
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.mail.mime/browse_thread/thread/e52f8112d43b8472
    and still alive and kicking (The current stable release of TkRat is 2.1.5. 
    Version 2.2 is nearing completion. as of  2006-01-18 06) doing squirrely things.
    i.e collecting nuts^H^H^H^Hmail and not be seen easily.
	http://www.tkrat.org/

    WHATEVER HAPPENED TO: cirque.com
    This is really about a program suite that generates formatted output (PS and plaintext)

    from within Tcl scripts:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/ca7e79b73099e614


Thanks to Arjen Markus for his review of Wiki updates:
  As so often, last week the Wiki was enriched with both
  large and small pages - oh well, let's start!
  
  Small demos
  - Do you need to be a wizard to build a record editor
    for databases in half a page of code? 
     demonstrates it can be 
    done.
  
  - Here is another one, by the same author, that shows
    that highly advanced and mysterious programming 
    concepts such as closures are just around the 
    corner ... 
  
  Just a few packages
  - Neuronstorm seems a nice tool for discussions 
    and brainstorming ... 
  
  - Ever needed a calendar widget? Iwidgets has one 
    - 
  
  - Did you know "tablelist"? A wonderful package
    for displaying and editing tables ...
    
  
  - And Critcl also receives a lot of attention
    on the Wiki - 
  
  And of course, discussions 
  - HTTP and authentication: several flavours,
    but we need examples too:
    
  
  - Your chronicler will not mix into the discussion
    whether LISP's S-expressions or Tcl's lists
    are easier for human beings or computers. 
    
  

Everything Tcl-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in these
pages:
    The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
	http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome
    comp.lang.tcl is a crucial resource for Tcl practitioners.
    An interesting perspective on its traffic appears at
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/about

    The Tcl Developer Site is Tcl's "home base".
	http://www.tcl.tk

    Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher.
	http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/

    The Tcl Developer Xchange is a highly organized resource center
    of documents and software with provisions for individuals to
    maintain references to their own software:
	http://www.tcl.tk/resource/
    The TDX sponsor, ActiveState, also keeps info to convince your
    boss Tcl is a good thing
	http://www.tcl.tk/scripting/

    The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
    of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things 
    Tcl.
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/0
    For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
    interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/969
    There's also a high-quality Wikibook on Tcl:
	http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Tcl

    ActiveState maintains binaries distribution and development tools
	http://www.activestate.com/Tcl
    along with a Cookbook of Tcl recipes
	http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Tcl

    deli.cio.us presents an intriguing approach to reference commentary.
    It already aggregates quite a bit of Tcl intelligence.
	http://del.icio.us/tag/tcl

    Cameron Laird tracks several Tcl/Tk references of interest (but
    needs to validate many of the links).
	http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/

    Years ago, Cetus Links maintained a Tcl/Tk page with verified links
	http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html

    "Yahoo! Groups" archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts--even 
    though clta itself is dormant.
	http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/

Previous - (U)se the (R)esource, (L)uke! - messages are supposed to be
listed at *Dr. Dobbs*, but sysad at CMP has fallen behind.  We're working
with them to restore the archive.
  http://www.ddj.com/topic/tcl/
In the meantime, an alternative is
  http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl

Suggestions/corrections for next week's posting are always welcome.

To receive a new issue of this posting in e-mail each Monday, ask

[Tcl-announce] Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (Jun 5)

QOTW:  "...When you find Tcl frustrating
you, I urge you to condition yourself
to have faith that there *must* be an easier way, and perhaps, as you have done
already, ask again for others to light your way a bit." - Cameron Laird on
c.l.t.

"Tcl is really just a parser and a command dispatcher -- with a number of
predefined commands." - Gerald W. Lester


POTW:
    Neuronstorm
    New Version 0.1.5 released 2006/06/03 

    is a free, open source program for creating mind-maps - pictorial 
    representations of a central idea and how it is linked to other 
    ideas or concepts. 
    Neuronstorm is also designed to be compatible with and eventually 
    replace Inspiration(TM) - a commercial mind-mapping program. 

    The Neuronstorm team invites developers, graphic designers and 
    potential users to help. See the Community Portal for more information.
    Homepage:
	http://neuronstorm.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
    Download:
       
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=110459&package_id=119345&release_id=4
22050

ORBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl
    trace incompatibility in 8.4 and 8.3 ?
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/10447bdc1fb0c32b

    aborting the evaluation of a single interpreter
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/8a4bcd145b1487e

    Tcl Plugin needed badly !!!
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/3d82b3726c125b3e

    Tcl_Realloc(NULL,len)?
    Should one be able to (mis)use Tcl_Realloc as initial allocator? 
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/91f4af8f61ce3f

    Rendering ppm (text)  images
    Tcl does NOT know about the "text" ppm format:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/66f2ae5538dd278


URBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl this week TEN years ago:
    Borrowing windows from other Tk applications
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/899603b02755d916

    etags for Tcl?
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/28cff85bcc10ba15
    
    How disable auto-highlighting of buttons ?
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/9b8e3175f52d5134

    Q: Plug-in a Tk widget in Netscape browser
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/msg/45ad6b743ad3bc95

    Whence UDP sockets???
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/9842f23a177d1521


Thanks to Arjen Markus for his review of Wiki updates:
  The meteorological summer/winter(*) has started (* - cross
  out what does not apply to your hemisphere) and your chronicler
  likes to think that makes a difference to his Well-being ...
  So, on with the summary!
  
  Extending Tcl ...
  - How to write a (compiled) extension in the first place?
     leads to all you need to know
  
  - Snodbc is a new way of using ODBC from Tcl - it is compatible 
    with, yet different from TclODBC - 
  
  Extending the glossary ...
  - basekit, stardll ( and 
    ) are new terms to be reckoned 
    with. Especially the concept of a stardll - just link against
    the library and you have Tcl embedded ... Or is that still
    a dream?
  
  Extending the Wiki and reaching out into China
  - Searching the Wiki may become simpler if you use Xapian -
    this page shows what and how - 
  
  - From what your chronicler heard, 
    holds a link to a well-designed Chinese webpage on Tcl
  
  An assortment of applications 
  - Totalview is a Linux/UNIX-oriented debugger with an 
    emphasis on parallel computing and a well-known scripting
    language ... 
  
  - If you need robust messaging, then "spread" might be it ...
     - only where to get the actual 
    Tcl bindings?
  
  - Tracking changes in file systems, for instance to see
    what files are added or changed by installations  ... 
    
  
  - Applying short scripts on the fly to files on the disk -
    
  
  - Viewing PPM files - you only need 17 lines of Tcl code 
    - 
  

Everything Tcl-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in these
pages:
    The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
	http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome
    comp.lang.tcl is a crucial resource for Tcl practitioners.
    An interesting perspective on its traffic appears at
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/about

    The Tcl Developer Site is Tcl's "home base".
	http://www.tcl.tk

    Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher.
	http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/

    The Tcl Developer Xchange is a highly organized resource center
    of documents and software with provisions for individuals to
    maintain references to their own software:
	http://www.tcl.tk/resource/
    The TDX sponsor, ActiveState, also keeps info to convince your
    boss Tcl is a good thing
	http://www.tcl.tk/scripting/

    The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
    of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things 
    Tcl.
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/0
    For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
    interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/969
    There's also a high-quality Wikibook on Tcl:
	http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Tcl

    ActiveState maintains binaries distribution and development tools
	http://www.activestate.com/Tcl
    along with a Cookbook of Tcl recipes
	http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Tcl

    deli.cio.us presents an intriguing approach to reference commentary.
    It already aggregates quite a bit of Tcl intelligence.
	http://del.icio.us/tag/tcl

    Cameron Laird tracks several Tcl/Tk references of interest (but
    needs to validate many of the links).
	http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/

    Years ago, Cetus Links maintained a Tcl/Tk page with verified links
	http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html

    "Yahoo! Groups" archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts--even 
    though clta itself is dormant.
	http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/

Previous - (U)se the (R)esource, (L)uke! - messages are supposed to be
listed at *Dr. Dobbs*, but sysad at CMP has fallen behind.  We're working
with them to restore the archive.
  http://www.ddj.com/topic/tcl/
In the meantime, an alternative is
  http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl

Suggestions/corrections for next week's posting are always welcome.

To receive a new issue of this posting in e-mail each Monday, ask

[Tcl-announce] Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (May 30)

QOTW:  " M$ Windows may or may not suck,
but given a large enough hammer it
can be pounded into submission." - David Gravereaux on c.l.t.

"[Changing a horse in m]idstream is ok in shallow waters." - Richard 
Suchenwirth


POTW:
    ANNOUNCE:  InstallJammer Multiplatform Installer, version 1.0rc3

    InstallJammer is a multiplatform GUI installer and builder
    designed to be completely cross-platform and function on
    Windows and most all version of UNIX with eventual support
    for Mac OS X.

    InstallJammer Features:

    * A full-featured install builder.
    * Installs are packaged in single binary executables for
    each platform making web distribution easy.
    * Support for multiple install themes.
    * Default install themes that resemble popular, commercial
    installers.
    * A high level of configurability.
    * Built-in support for Windows install conventions.
    * Automatic creation of an uninstaller.
    * Easily extended to new platforms.

	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/dda440f8ddf19689
    download:
	http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=148203
    homepage:
	http://www.installjammer.com/


ORBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl
    The Tcl notifier and Console on Windows
    a longish discussion on (de)merits of Microsoft System Architecture
    in certain details:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/3fa879b7c4f4cf77

    Get a list of all interpreters?
    and reasons why you should not know about your parents 
    ( "you" being an interp child instance )
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/9afcdf68f0ee0d1a
    
    Why have I to rename before aliasing a command
    and other methods of causing heavy interpreter trauma with alias:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/4eae955dc8989d7b

    Sybtcl and Sybase 12.5.x? problem
    An UNANSWERED call for help. run, don't walk!
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/24e12da2f9dc75c5
    
    why can't EXPR read a global variable ?
    hunting bugs to extinction may not catch your general typo:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/f063914f4b37a4da
    ( a former boss once told me his bugs were on 
      average much more intelligent than my bugs ;-)

    Tile/ttk on Aero/Windows Vista Beta?
    Tile is not there yet. Vista isn't here either.
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/9dff6024a1c64bf5


URBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl this week TEN years ago:
    exec file $NumberOfArgs ???
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/46af5f05adfa7125

    TCL weakness: file buffers not flushed on "exit"
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/14f887b678cfe2a

    root x/y to window x/y
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/8d146bb3d393cf03

    ANNOUNCE: itcl2.0.1plus=itcl2.0+itk2.0+tcl7.5+tk4.1+iw2.0.1+plus
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/fbb3d52fdb620fcc


Thanks to Arjen Markus for his review of Wiki updates:
  One of the charms of Tcl is the number of solutions you 
  can find for most problems - or should we try to stick 
  to a single solution?
  
  Looking at it from three directions
  - Shade may be little known outside Japan, and you 
    need working knowledge of the Japanese language,
    but it seems a nice 3D visualisation package ...
    
  
  - Lab 3D is the prozaic name for a 3D viewer in
    pure Tcl - 
  
  Looking at it from multiple points of view
  - Is there a "best" database for Tcl? 
    
  
  - Just convert a text widget to XML and
    vice versa - 
  
  - And file formats for deploying your Tcl application
    are available in more than one flavour ...
    
  
  Communication is fun when there are at least two ...
  - A little tool to access serial ports ...
    
  
  - Sundry solutions for having Tcl communicate with
    Tcl ... 
  
  - The Sixth EutoTcl meeting is over, now let us 
    see about the proceedings ...  
  

Everything Tcl-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in these
pages:
    The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
	http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome
    comp.lang.tcl is a crucial resource for Tcl practitioners.
    An interesting perspective on its traffic appears at
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/about

    The Tcl Developer Site is Tcl's "home base".
	http://www.tcl.tk

    Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher.
	http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/

    The Tcl Developer Xchange is a highly organized resource center
    of documents and software with provisions for individuals to
    maintain references to their own software:
	http://www.tcl.tk/resource/
    The TDX sponsor, ActiveState, also keeps info to convince your
    boss Tcl is a good thing
	http://www.tcl.tk/scripting/

    The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
    of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things 
    Tcl.
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/0
    For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
    interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/969
    There's also a high-quality Wikibook on Tcl:
	http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Tcl

    ActiveState maintains binaries distribution and development tools
	http://www.activestate.com/Tcl
    along with a Cookbook of Tcl recipes
	http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Tcl

    deli.cio.us presents an intriguing approach to reference commentary.
    It already aggregates quite a bit of Tcl intelligence.
	http://del.icio.us/tag/tcl

    Cameron Laird tracks several Tcl/Tk references of interest (but
    needs to validate many of the links).
	http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/

    Years ago, Cetus Links maintained a Tcl/Tk page with verified links
	http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html

    "Yahoo! Groups" archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts--even 
    though clta itself is dormant.
	http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/

Previous - (U)se the (R)esource, (L)uke! - messages are supposed to be
listed at *Dr. Dobbs*, but sysad at CMP has fallen behind.  We're working
with them to restore the archive.
  http://www.ddj.com/topic/tcl/
In the meantime, an alternative is
  http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl

Suggestions/corrections for next week's posting are always welcome.

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QOTW:  "thanks, I missed those \m and \M(s,
ed) ...." - Miroslav Osys on c.l.t

"I have only purchased *Practical Programming in Tcl and Tk* at this point
and while I am not heavily into Tcl at this moment it has served me
extremely well. That book + this newsgroup + the wiki is my formula for
getting things done in Tcl." - Robert Hicks


POTW:
    [ANNC] Celtk2 alpha release
    CelTk embeds tcl in Common Lisp and by way of tcl
    Tk and OpenGL ( tkogl ). 
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.lisp/browse_thread/thread/430322a9e0c187d
    
    Announce:: Oratcl 4.4 now available on sourceforge.net
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/8e01bb2f25bfe304
    homepage:	  http://oratcl.sourceforge.net/
    download:	  http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=12880

    [ANNOUNCE] savIRC 2.0 Released
    savIRC is an IRC client written in 100% Tcl/Tk (Excluding the
    encryption module). And has all of the mainstream features you'd expect
    in an IRC client.
    download: 
	http://www.savirc.com/

    ANNOUNCEMENT: New libraries available
    Emanuel Frecon has packaged a couple of libraries:
	   
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/6d1e771a1cd325cd
    winapi :	 http://www.sics.se/~emmanuel/?Code:winapi
    The  winapi library is  a Tcl  library that offers access  to the
    low-level  Win32 API.   The philosophy  of winapi  is to  give the
    programmer total control over the calls being made, at the expense of
    longer code.  winapi attempts  to mimick as closely as possible the
    Windows  API: it  uses names and  naming conventions  that are similar,
     offers  Tcl  commands   that  have  the  same  order  of arguments,
    represents flags  and masks  using the  same  names as their Windows
    constants counterparts and	represent structures by lists  of  even
    length  containing	the  keys  and values  of  the structures.

    notifier :	   http://www.sics.se/~emmanuel/?Code:notifier
    The notifier library implements a new Tcl/Tk widget that presents
    itselfs as an (animated) notifier that pops up from one of the side of
    the screen in a direction that can be chosen. The notifier is a new
    toplevel and it is up to the caller to fill it in with content.

    osd :     http://www.sics.se/~emmanuel/?Code:osd
    The osd library implements a new Tcl/Tk widget that presents itselfs as
    an (animated) notifier that pops up from one of the side of the screen
    in a direction that can be chosen. The osd features an image and an
    informative message.

    fullscreener :     http://www.sics.se/~emmanuel/?Code:fullscreener
    The fullscreener library forces an existing window from any Windows
    application to remain on top of a fullscreen blank frame, which will
    ensure the presence of one and only one window on the screen.


ORBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl
    Should Tcl be subverted? leave Eden?
    The current problems with the sourceforge developer cvs lead to a
    discussion on a) getting rid of CVS and b) looking for a new home:
	http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=10313268&forum_id=3854
	http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=10315346&forum_id=3854
	http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=3854

    Report on Coverity's scan of the tcl sources in next week's TclURL.

    Tcl and Qt
    Question and Solution on using Tcl and Qt event loops right:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/feddffdf0a6cb16a

    tclkit.exe and multiple threads
    A rather extensive Howto on using tclkit.exe with multiple threads
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/1d8055d9d62c50b2 
  
    and todays InstaPatch feature is provided by Eckhard Lehmann:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/msg/61db2176521d6b6c

    fileevent saying there's something to read but there isn't ?!
    Because EOF is more than nothing! 
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/77640e9255a43a77
    Question to the reader: Would having an eof/error event make any sense?

    Itcl inheritance
    questions about, a patch to help and a discussion on Itcls unwaranted
    underapreciation
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/9641282690b6949a
    todays InstaPatch feature is again provided by Eckhard Lehmann:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/msg/fa5a928302c41cb8

    Tcl_MakeFileChannel/Tcl_RegisterChannel use to add file descriptor?
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/1a9eb247f64203c1

TIPX: new, used and discarded Tips
    TIP 269 by Joe Mistachkin : Add 'string is list' to the 'string is' Subcommand
    is a new TIP
	http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=10422734&forum_id=3854
	http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=10424834&forum_id=3854
	http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=10436073&forum_id=3854
	http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=10436720&forum_id=3854

URBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl this week TEN years ago:
    Is break broken? :) :) :)
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/8cf7095926c5d75

    Perl strengths vs Tcl
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/9bba36f9137a775e

    tkCVS availability
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/b3c9c4c69427eaf5

    Tcl/Tk Commercial Uses - Part 1: The Index
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/56c7e739d0aee225
    This and "Part 2:  Products and Services" used to be a regular posting:
       
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=group%3Acomp.lang.tcl+%22Tcl%2FTk+Commercial+Uses%
22


Thanks to Arjen Markus for his review of Wiki updates:
  It was an unusually slow day for the Wiki last week, so
  a short summary will suffice.
  
  How to ...
  - Make your computer talk to you ... 
  
  - Use Ratcl's approach on an SQLite database ... 
    
  
  - Distribute Tcl applications via an Internet server ...
    
  
  What to change?
  - The Wiki can be improved, but how? A long discussion 
    at 
  
  - If you have only a very small screen, then standard
    dialoges may be a nuisance. Find better alternatives
    via 
  
  Comfortable ...
  - Air Traffic Control requires a serious approach -
     explains the role of
    Tcl
  
  - Just another editor, with a difference: it allows
    you to show and store text with widgets and all
    On the French Wiki: 
  

Everything Tcl-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in these
pages:
    The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
	http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome
    comp.lang.tcl is a crucial resource for Tcl practitioners.
    An interesting perspective on its traffic appears at
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/about

    The Tcl Developer Site is Tcl's "home base".
	http://www.tcl.tk

    Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher.
	http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/

    The Tcl Developer Xchange is a highly organized resource center
    of documents and software with provisions for individuals to
    maintain references to their own software:
	http://www.tcl.tk/resource/
    The TDX sponsor, ActiveState, also keeps info to convince your
    boss Tcl is a good thing
	http://www.tcl.tk/scripting/

    The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
    of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things 
    Tcl.
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/0
    For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
    interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/969
    There's also a high-quality Wikibook on Tcl:
	http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Tcl

    ActiveState maintains binaries distribution and development tools
	http://www.activestate.com/Tcl
    along with a Cookbook of Tcl recipes
	http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Tcl

    deli.cio.us presents an intriguing approach to reference commentary.
    It already aggregates quite a bit of Tcl intelligence.
	http://del.icio.us/tag/tcl

    Cameron Laird tracks several Tcl/Tk references of interest (but
    needs to validate many of the links).
	http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/

    Years ago, Cetus Links maintained a Tcl/Tk page with verified links
	http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html

    "Yahoo! Groups" archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts--even 
    though clta itself is dormant.
	http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/

Previous - (U)se the (R)esource, (L)uke! - messages are supposed to be
listed at *Dr. Dobbs*, but sysad at CMP has fallen behind.  We're working
with them to restore the archive.
  http://www.ddj.com/topic/tcl/
In the meantime, an alternative is
  http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl

Suggestions/corrections for next week's posting are always welcome.

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Anticipate discussion soon of Coverity, and
the official Tcl repository
(SF?  CVS?  SVN?  ...).


QOTW:  "It is a cool piece of Tcl!  If a liitle hard to wrap a newbies
head around." - Robert on c.l.t about the DustMote MINImal http-server: 
    http://wiki.tcl.tk/4333

"Dynamically created namespaces are wonderful for storing pseudo-object
instance data." - Bryan Oakley


POTW:  ANNOUNCE:  InstallJammer Multiplatform Installer, version 1.0rc1
    InstallJammer is a multiplatform GUI installer and builder 
    designed to be completely cross-platform and function on 
    Windows and most all version of UNIX with eventual support 
    for Mac OS X. 
    InstallJammer Features: 
    * A full-featured install builder. 
    * Installs are packaged in single binary executables for 
      each platform making web distribution easy. 
    * Support for multiple install themes. 
    * Default install themes that resemble popular, commercial 
      installers. 
    * A high level of configurability. 
    * Built-in support for Windows install conventions. 
    * Automatic creation of an uninstaller. 
    * Easily extended to new platforms.
    http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/ad8242510f151efd
    homepage:
    http://www.installjammer.com/
    downloads:
    http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=148203

    TileQt version 0.4 pre-release 1...
    The most notable change is support for KDE colour palette changes
    (so, now TileQt reacts when both the style and the colour palette
    change from the KDE control center). When either the style or the
    palette changes, the virtual event <> is emmitted to
    all the widgets.
    http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/a66e98662adefea4
    download:
   
http://www.ellogon.org/petasis/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=32&Itemid=37


ORBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl
    "Does TCL  fit my requirements ?"
    asks llothar presenting a big set of requirements he wants met. 
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/397e99f1c99d5f31

    Where is the TCL extension list ?
    Continuing the previous discussion from last week he states 
    his dismay concerning the  state of core tcl websites.
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/981e5f16369fbe05
    At the core these threads revolve around
    Is Tcl a well-matured language or a senile one?

    How to get at -data field of virtual event from C?
    An unanswered technical question morphs into a discussion
    on "liveliness of response" and some other perceived issues
    are taken up from the last topic.
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/e62fad0467f40a8

    Tcl -> Com -> Excel -> pdf
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/9ecb07289b68f88c


    Forcing TCL to treat a channel as a serial port?
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/925af55cbec9fc8e

    Problem recognizing USB to serial port adapter
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/ad1ce023bd00ed38

    USB to Serial Adapters have issues on Windows
    For some time. A range of USB2Serial Adapters were not recognized as such.
    This is now fixed for tcl8.4 in cvs ( marked for tcl8.4.14 ) 8.5?  
	https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=310894&aid=819667&group_id=10894


URBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl this week TEN years ago:
    BNF or other syntax specification for Tcl/Tk?
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/296ef3b9082fad6b

    ANNOUNCE: Version 0.8 of MenuEdit
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/b615c6a5ee226522

    ANNOUNCE: final release of tkpvm (version 1.0)
       
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.parallel.pvm/browse_thread/thread/e9df2f1a618de942
    PVM reference:
	http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=pvm§ion=projects&Go.x=0&Go.y=0

    How the heck to you match for [ ] { } characters?
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/f1e41d418e6f1edb


Thanks to Arjen Markus for his review of Wiki updates:
  Sometimes an old page is revived, because someone
  comes along with a novel idea ... Have a look 
  yourself.
  
  Resurrection
  - Oh, the world of physical and other units ...
    Can we take a shortcut from one unit to the next? 
     indicates we can
  
  - It is completely - or mostly - useless to send a 
    picture encoded as HTML ... Or is it? Maybe something
    can be done via Javascript. 
  
  Apparition
  - Dump the contents of a text widget, along with the 
    tags and pictures and all? Try this French page
    
  
  - Just a nice little calendar application for small
    computers: 
  
  - Update your understanding of semantic nets, ontologies,
    ... Start with this short descriptive page:
    
  
  - Your Wiki chronicler is not in general charmed with
    mouse cursors that have a life of their own,
    but maybe  solves 
    your problem.
  
  - Improving on good old Runge-Kutta: picking the
    stepsize automatically - 
  
  - And a two-way copy operation: 
    shows how this is almost trivial.
  
  Wandering
  - Download something and keep informed about the progress?
    
  
  - You can find all kinds of technical explanations about
    this concept: continuation ... but wouldn't it be nice 
    to have? 
  
  - So, the Linux kernel has something akin to our VFS?
    here is a way to use it directly within Tcl! 
    
  

Everything Tcl-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in these
pages:
    The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
	http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome
    comp.lang.tcl is a crucial resource for Tcl practitioners.
    An interesting perspective on its traffic appears at
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/about

    The Tcl Developer Site is Tcl's "home base".
	http://www.tcl.tk

    Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher.
	http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/

    The Tcl Developer Xchange is a highly organized resource center
    of documents and software with provisions for individuals to
    maintain references to their own software:
	http://www.tcl.tk/resource/
    The TDX sponsor, ActiveState, also keeps info to convince your
    boss Tcl is a good thing
	http://www.tcl.tk/scripting/

    The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
    of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things 
    Tcl.
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/0
    For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
    interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/969
    There's also a high-quality Wikibook on Tcl:
	http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Tcl

    ActiveState maintains binaries distribution and development tools
	http://www.activestate.com/Tcl
    along with a Cookbook of Tcl recipes
	http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Tcl

    deli.cio.us presents an intriguing approach to reference commentary.
    It already aggregates quite a bit of Tcl intelligence.
	http://del.icio.us/tag/tcl

    Cameron Laird tracks several Tcl/Tk references of interest (but
    needs to validate many of the links).
	http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/

    Years ago, Cetus Links maintained a Tcl/Tk page with verified links
	http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html

    "Yahoo! Groups" archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts--even 
    though clta itself is dormant.
	http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/

Previous - (U)se the (R)esource, (L)uke! - messages are supposed to be
listed at *Dr. Dobbs*, but sysad at CMP has fallen behind.  We're working
with them to restore the archive.
  http://www.ddj.com/topic/tcl/
In the meantime, an alternative is
  http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl

Suggestions/corrections for next week's posting are always welcome.

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QOTW: "I didn't need to know that its a bad
idea or why its a bad idea.
I just needed to known why Tcl didn't do what I expected." - ulis
"Many Tclers post answers in comp.lang.tcl for the benefit of not just
the original poster, but all who may read the archives - but *you* didn't
need to know that." - neuronstorm in answer to ulis on c.l.t.

"The Tcl-core developers did a lot of hard work, to get a sane semantic
for exec even to windows." - Andreas Leitgeb 


POTW:  ANN: Tkhtml alpha 4 available.

"Tkhtml" is a Tcl/Tk widget that displays HTML. Tkhtml is implemented in C. 
It is a true widget, not a metawidget implemented using the Text or Canvas
widgets of the Tcl/Tk core.  The changes for version 3 and in particular all
of the work on style sheets, has been done by Dan Kennedy. Dan has been able
to work full-time on the project for several months thanks to the financial
support of Eolas Technologies, Inc..
    http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/5996340e17369c66
homepage:
    http://tkhtml.tcl.tk/index.html


    eTcl 1.0-rc3 released
    Eric Hassold announces the third release candidate for eTcl 1.0
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/74a7173e53b86c30

    ANNOUNCE: Tile Widget Set, version 0.7.6
    Tile 0.7.6 corresponds roughly to the CVS snapshot labelled '0.7.5'
    which was included in the recently-released ActiveTcl 8.4.13.
    + ttk::entry widgets now support an 'identify' method,
      to support entry-based megawidgets.
    + ttk::notebook widgets have an 'insert' method, which allows
      new panes to be added at any position (not just the end).
    + The ttk::notebook 'select' method with no arguments now
      returns the currently-selected tab.
    + ttk::treeview 'identify' method interface has been revised
      to be easier to use.
    + ttk::treeview 'bbox' method added.
    + ttk::notebook and ttk::labelframe widgets have more flexible
      layout policies; better support for pixmap themes.
    + Keyboard navigation for ttk::notebooks now works when there
      are multiple notebooks in a single toplevel, including
      nested notebooks.
    + [style lookup] command added, for querying theme option values.
    + Several bugs have been fixed; see ChangeLog for details.
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/d4b637442ba396ce
    homepage:
	http://tktable.sourceforge.net/tile
    prebuild packages:
	http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=11464
    AND Documentation:
	http://tktable.sourceforge.net/tile/doc/

    [Ann] DQkit 8.5a4-build2 and 8.4.13-build1
    There is only one change as compared to 8.5a4-build1 and 0.10 - both
    sqlite and sqlite3 can be used at the same time.
    This release has TclX back, newest version from CVS. 
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/f4d05667ae38b929
    download:
	http://sourceforge.net/projects/dqsoftware/

ORBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl
    TkDND 2.0--how to adjust makefile for alternate platform?
    Little hints on TEA grow into big help through the author
    adding  TEA 3.5 support to DkDND
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/4fccb25e542883ad
    download of updated TkDND:
       
http://www.ellogon.org/petasis/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=31&Itemid=37
    docs:
       
http://www.ellogon.org/petasis/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=52&Itemid=
37

    set/get/compare a number by binary bit
    Tcl and the joys of using a list for everything ( and i still would use
    bitbanging ints for this )
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/c5fa0e01

    Delivering a presentation justifying use of TCL/Tk
    Examples and ideas for a presentation, existing documentation that can be used
    and what type of audience will you be talking to:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/7eb0c58eabc36604

    page syntax for +script
    starting with a question on +{scripts} in bind and comm this discussion
    slewes over to a disemination on semantics
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/9e11ce7e487cbb0d


URBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl this week TEN years ago:
    FVWM and Tcl/TK, How do I assign desktops?
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/f4f735e3d0fb7700

    Announcing: Ada 95 binding to Tcl/Tk
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/c5bef61c3b915b31

    Performance problems with TCL 7.5/Tk 4.1/Tix 4.0.4
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/ae3acf1a53653377

    JOB : someone to port tcl-unix app to NT
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/f11dfa263cea8f54


Thanks to Arjen Markus for his review of Wiki updates:
  A most exemplary week on the Wiki - judging from the 
  emphasis on examples ...
  
  Gems
  - Everyone has their own examples of beautiful Tcl/Tk
    code -  is a small collection 
    of them.
  
  - You might say, Tk by itself is all you need for 
    displaying tables ... 
  
  - ... but sometimes you might want to integrate 
    a "foreign" widget into Tk (or vice versa) ...
    let  guide you.
  
  - Now, why didn't anyone think of this before:
    a small device to enlarge the font in a text widget
    - especially useful if you have trouble reading
    small-font Chinese characters: 
  
  Nuggets
  - Contribute your favourite empirical formula, be it
    physical or chemical: 
  
  - Though the names be strange to an English ear,
    these two packages may help with certain programming
    tasks -  and 
    
  
  Workers
  - Don't forget the next Tcl event on the calendar:
    A European gathering near Cologne -
    
  

Everything Tcl-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in these
pages:
    The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
	http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome
    comp.lang.tcl is a crucial resource for Tcl practitioners.
    An interesting perspective on its traffic appears at
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/about

    The Tcl Developer Site is Tcl's "home base".
	http://www.tcl.tk

    Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher.
	http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/

    The Tcl Developer Xchange is a highly organized resource center
    of documents and software with provisions for individuals to
    maintain references to their own software:
	http://www.tcl.tk/resource/
    The TDX sponsor, ActiveState, also keeps info to convince your
    boss Tcl is a good thing
	http://www.tcl.tk/scripting/

    The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
    of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things 
    Tcl.
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/0
    For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
    interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/969
    There's also a high-quality Wikibook on Tcl:
	http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Tcl

    ActiveState maintains binaries distribution and development tools
	http://www.activestate.com/Tcl
    along with a Cookbook of Tcl recipes
	http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Tcl

    deli.cio.us presents an intriguing approach to reference commentary.
    It already aggregates quite a bit of Tcl intelligence.
	http://del.icio.us/tag/tcl

    Cameron Laird tracks several Tcl/Tk references of interest (but
    needs to validate many of the links).
	http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/

    Years ago, Cetus Links maintained a Tcl/Tk page with verified links
	http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html

    "Yahoo! Groups" archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts--even 
    though clta itself is dormant.
	http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/

Previous - (U)se the (R)esource, (L)uke! - messages are supposed to be
listed at *Dr. Dobbs*, but sysad at CMP has fallen behind.  We're working
with them to restore the archive.
  http://www.ddj.com/topic/tcl/
In the meantime, an alternative is
  http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl

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[Tcl-announce] ActiveTcl 8.4.13 is now available

ActiveState is pleased to announce the
release of ActiveTcl 8.4.13.0,
the quality-assured distribution of Tcl, available for AIX, HP-UX,
Linux, Mac OS X, Solaris and Windows.

New in ActiveTcl 8.4.13.0:

   * OS X x86 distribution
   * Tcl/Tk core updated to 8.4.13
   * Bugfixes in several packages
   * Updated:
     - Snack 2.2.10
     - Sqlite 3.2.8
     - Tcllib 1.8
     - Tile 0.7.5
     - Tklib 0.4.1
     - Xotcl 1.3.9
     - Thread 2.6.3 (Windows, OS X only)
   * New:
     - platform
   * Removed:
     - None

To download ActiveTcl 8.4.13.0, click here:
	http://www.ActiveState.com/ActiveTcl/download

For more information, click here:
	http://www.ActiveState.com/ActiveTcl

Enjoy!

The Tcl Team, ActiveState
http://www.ActiveState.com

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QOTW:  "If each bit of code [package
require]s all the packages that
provide any of the commands it uses, then users will get error messages
like 'can't find package foo' instead of cryptic things like reported in
this thread." - Don Porter on c.l.t.

"Personally, I am not aware of any other community site that presents
technical information in such an elegant and bloat-free way." - Razvan
Mihai, in regard to http://wiki.tcl.tk/


POTW: Tcl/Tk and the 8.4.13 Release from April 19, 2006:  The Tcl Core Team
is pleased to announce the 8.4.13 releases of the Tcl dynamic language and
the Tk toolkit.  This is the thirteenth patch release of Tcl/Tk 8.4.  


ORBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl with announcements in abundance
spring has displaced a sleepy winter. 

    eTcl on SMT5600 Smartphone?  Look Ma, no Hands...
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/696119d00748bf5

    How do you convert a TCL list into a string that PHP can read?
    An onion of a problem:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/dd844f2a60d7293a
    A layer on test practices led eventually to this tutorial from
    Bryan Oakley on tcltest:
	http://www.tclscripting.com/articles/apr06/article1.html

    Announce: tclgl2ps - hard copy o/p from Opengl
    This package consists of Christophe Guezaine's gl2ps package wrapped 
    with SWIG to produce a loadable binary extension. 
    The purpose of this extension is to produce hard-copy output 
    (postscript, pdf , latex, svg) from opengl. The present extension is 
    intended to be used in conjunction with Paul Obermeier's tcl3d 
    (formerly tclogl). 
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/61f0a5eb8fe3d0fd
    tclgl2ps may be downloaded from  
	http://www.sfu.ca/~gay/tclgl2ps.zip. 
    The archive contains loadable binary extensions for Windows, 32-bit 
    Linux and 64-bit Linux. (Tested on XP/SP2 and SuSE 9.3).

    ANNOUNCE: iaxclient 0.1
    It is built upon the IAXClient which is an Open Source library to 
    implement the IAX protocol used by The Asterisk Software PBX. 
    IAX is a VoIP protocol for providing voice communication, 
    both p2p and to the public telephony system through an Asterisk 
    server. We have tested this on MacOSX, Linux and 
    Windows XP, both p2p and to the public tele network.
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/d71388300e095a17

    [Ann] DQkit 0.10
    Dqkit is like tclkit on steroids. It includes tcl, tk, metakit, vfs,
    zlib, tclx, itcl, itk, iwidgets, blt, tbcload, tclsqlite and openssl+tls,
    according to fan Bob Techentin. It also includes threading.  This will
    probably be the final 8.4 based version.
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/ee15cb9b94987ef
	http://sourceforge.net/projects/dqsoftware/

    ANNOUNCE: eTcl 1.0-rc0 released - v8.4.13 core and MacOSX universal binaries
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/355b6d0dd829ccf8
	http://www.evolane.com/software/etcl/index.html

    building BLT 2.4 for multi-threading on windows
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/92cba80beec19514
    dont despair, help is just one click further:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/msg/1970d634072ea4de
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/msg/acee16ddb690e2d0

    [Tk] How to bind .  ?
    theory and praxis, never the twain shall meet:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/b8345c075efcc06c

URBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl this week TEN years ago:
    Floater is available!
    Quote from the past(gregg):
      wow, i'll bet that took some doing.  150+ lines of detailed 
      technical instructions without a clue as to what the package 
      is or does.
      Is hindsight any better?
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/92976a2f03fd304d/

    COMMENTS REQUESTED: behavior of tk_dialog
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/3b0fefeccca360ff

    Reminder: TclRobots Challenge #2
       
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.corewar/browse_thread/thread/16a00560103f9da3

    looking for a Table Display widget
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/8b38bf2a63f244ec


Thanks to Arjen Markus for his review of Wiki updates:
  With very old pages popping now and again, your Wiki chronicler
  wonders whether there is a discernible evolution in the contents,
  subjects and style of the pages that have appeared over the 
  years... But it is probably not worth anyone's while to find 
  out :). 
  
  Discussions
  - Should we want Tcl to be immensely popular? 
    provides arguments against that thought ...
  
  - Should we, perhaps, just have fun with our beloved language?
     takes another viewpoint.
  
  - Should we include everybody's favourite code fragment in 
    our scripts and programs? Take your pick: 
  
  - Or, maybe, just show off with some fancy clothing and other 
    tangibles - 
  
  Examples
  - Working with BWidget tree widgets _is_ fun, just look at this
    French page: 
  
  - If you want a resizeable canvas item, say a rectangle, stop and
    look at 
  
  Calculators
  - The recent discussions about the [expr] command may have triggered
    them, but just look at the screenshot of this simulated HP calculator
    - 
  
  - And if you really prefer your computations in reversed Polish notation, 
    then I guess you will want to look at 


Everything Tcl-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in these
pages:
    The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
	http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome
    comp.lang.tcl is a crucial resource for Tcl practitioners.
    An interesting perspective on its traffic appears at
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/about

    The Tcl Developer Site is Tcl's "home base".
	http://www.tcl.tk

    Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher.
	http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/

    The Tcl Developer Xchange is a highly organized resource center
    of documents and software with provisions for individuals to
    maintain references to their own software:
	http://www.tcl.tk/resource/
    The TDX sponsor, ActiveState, also keeps info to convince your
    boss Tcl is a good thing
	http://www.tcl.tk/scripting/

    The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
    of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things 
    Tcl.
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/0
    For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
    interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/969
    There's also a high-quality Wikibook on Tcl:
	http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Tcl

    ActiveState maintains binaries distribution and development tools
	http://www.activestate.com/Tcl
    along with a Cookbook of Tcl recipes
	http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Tcl

    deli.cio.us presents an intriguing approach to reference commentary.
    It already aggregates quite a bit of Tcl intelligence.
	http://del.icio.us/tag/tcl

    Cameron Laird tracks several Tcl/Tk references of interest (but
    needs to validate many of the links).
	http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/

    Years ago, Cetus Links maintained a Tcl/Tk page with verified links
	http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html

    "Yahoo! Groups" archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts--even 
    though clta itself is dormant.
	http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/

Previous - (U)se the (R)esource, (L)uke! - messages are supposed to be
listed at *Dr. Dobbs*, but sysad at CMP has fallen behind.  We're working
with them to restore the archive.
  http://www.ddj.com/topic/tcl/
In the meantime, an alternative is
  http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl

Suggestions/corrections for next week's posting are always welcome.

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[Tcl-announce] Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (Apr 18)

QOTW:  "Someone with a strong CS background will see that EIAS concept is
useful for a large class of problems." - G.W.Lester

"And so think I. And I'd expect a scripting language to support it
especially well." - Sektor van Skijlen


POTW:	aMSN and Chameleon: aMSN is an free open source MSN Messenger
clone, featuring: 
		Display pictures
		Custom emoticons
		Multi-language support (around 40 languages currently supported)
		Sign in to more than one account at once
		File transfers
		Group support
		Normal, and animated emoticons with sounds
		Chat logs
		Webcam support
		Ability to autoclose the filetransfer window when it is finished
		Faster loading skin window
		( some of the 77 features have been snipped  ;-)
and its Tk/Tile.. Wrapper Plugin Chameleon mentioned in a discussion about
Tile as the ultimate wrapper around Tile. ( supplating the discontinued Tk
options tolerance in Tile.)
    http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/msg/c83efd67ea6e0942

aMSN homepage:
    http://amsn.sourceforge.net/
ANN of stable version of Chameleon:
Chameleon plugin : Native/GTK/QT toolkit for aMSN
    http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=618
    
the fringe: How to migrate to tile:
    http://wiki.tcl.tk/15443


ORBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl
    ANNOUNCE: Call For Papers: 13th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference, Oct. 9-13, 2006
    Steve Redler IV announces the 13th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference in 
    Naperville, Illinois USA and would like to place another call for papers.
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/f7b5e7d40b71d84

    ANN: TileQt version 0.3:  in rapid succesion TileQt has matured
    to version 0.3.  Now with a different style per interperter!
    TileQt is a tile theme, which draws tile widgets with the
    current (or any other) KDE widget style, thus making tile widgets
    look native under the KDE desktop.
    Another bag of improvements comes with this release. See:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/b311a856683d081a

    Tcl/Tk 8.4.13 release candidates are available in preparation for a
    regular release around the 19th of this month.
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/b0eb3b5168b1f71d

    the ttrace package for threads
    successfull [ package require ] is not the sole requirement for user satisfaction:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/ed3829e70b75d23f
    manpage:
	http://www.hmug.org/man/n/ttrace.php

    Binary file reading issues (after translation)
    Kiss it with -translation binary and all your troubles may go away:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/7dbbdf6cf591a759

    Google summer of code, to participate or not the scale has not
    been TIPped yet:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/cfad546a2432905c

TIPX: new, used and discarded Tips
    TIP 266 by Kristoffer Lawson : Numbers are Commands
	is a new TIP
    Not unexpectedly heavy discussion flares up in tcl-core:
	http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=10162550&forum_id=3854 

URBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl this week TEN years ago:
    ANNOUNCE : SWIG 1.0 Beta
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/7a23e4e763430b1c

    Use Swedish with Tcl/Tk
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/e56c12a68edfa3cd

    Tcl 7.5 and Tk 4.1 almost done 
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread

    ANNOUNCE: Contributed Sources Archive Now Available Via WWW
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/715d8c197a004a65


Thanks to Arjen Markus for his review of Wiki updates:
  Let us for the sake for speed, summarize the Wiki without delay!
  
  Graphical stuff
  - Wouldn't it be nice to be able to put an image in a frame?
    The discussion about TIP 262 continues on 
  
  - This is heresy - to one who loves floating-point operations: 
    rotations on the canvas that avoid them: 
  
  Development and decision: GUIs help
  - A fancy looking IDE - just link through via 
  
  - A medical DSS - let the doctor decide via 
  
  Combining things
  - Take a timer script, add a DLL to talk to the hardware, et voila,
    a useful program to monitor your equipment - 
  
  - From infix to prefix: your Wiki chronicler has laboured over this
    transformation ... 
  

Everything Tcl-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in these
pages:
    The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
	http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome
    comp.lang.tcl is a crucial resource for Tcl practitioners.
    An interesting perspective on its traffic appears at
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/about

    The Tcl Developer Site is Tcl's "home base".
	http://www.tcl.tk

    Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher.
	http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/

    The Tcl Developer Xchange is a highly organized resource center
    of documents and software with provisions for individuals to
    maintain references to their own software:
	http://www.tcl.tk/resource/
    The TDX sponsor, ActiveState, also keeps info to convince your
    boss Tcl is a good thing
	http://www.tcl.tk/scripting/

    The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
    of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things 
    Tcl.
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/0
    For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
    interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/969
    There's also a high-quality Wikibook on Tcl:
	http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Tcl

    ActiveState maintains binaries distribution and development tools
	http://www.activestate.com/Tcl
    along with a Cookbook of Tcl recipes
	http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Tcl

    deli.cio.us presents an intriguing approach to reference commentary.
    It already aggregates quite a bit of Tcl intelligence.
	http://del.icio.us/tag/tcl

    Cameron Laird tracks several Tcl/Tk references of interest (but
    needs to validate many of the links).
	http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/

    Years ago, Cetus Links maintained a Tcl/Tk page with verified links
	http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html

    "Yahoo! Groups" archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts--even 
    though clta itself is dormant.
	http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/

Previous - (U)se the (R)esource, (L)uke! - messages are supposed to be
listed at *Dr. Dobbs*, but sysad at CMP has fallen behind.  We're working
with them to restore the archive.
  http://www.ddj.com/topic/tcl/
In the meantime, an alternative is
  http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl

Suggestions/corrections for next week's posting are always welcome.

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